Friday, April 19, 2013

Luigi Pepe

One Year Anniversary Convergence, September 17, 2012, Liberty Square
Photo: Stacy Lanyon

What drew me to Occupy was the sudden impulse of a mass of people to join together and do something. As soon as I heard of it, I knew that someway, somehow I would be part of that because this is what we need. We need to come together because no one is going to come out of the sky and save us. We have to do it. That’s why we’re here. When this movement finally broke out, I was like, “Finally, there’s something I can give my support to and give my energy to help bring about something better for everybody. The system only serves a very few people. I call them fat cats. We don’t need them. They need us. They don’t want us to know that. We’re starting to become more and more aware of that. A lot of shit is starting to break down now. The government structure is breaking down. They’re sending law enforcement to curb the people who are peacefully assembling, exercising their first amendment rights. The media can’t hide it forever. It’s starting to come out more and more. We’re going to see a lot of things unfold. It’s going to be an interesting ride.

I was never able to get to the park during the occupation. I had every intention of getting there once a week, but something kept me away from that. What kept me away from that was research into what I’m bringing now. I know what I was doing was going to bring something to this movement, an awareness of ourselves, that each of us has the power within ourselves to make change, and the change starts within ourselves. It starts with the changing of the thoughts and ideas that, “Little old me, what can I do?” That’s what the system wants us to believe.

Any little thing anybody does, anything I do, will make a difference. It could be holding the door open for someone, or it could be going up against Capital Hill, whatever we feel comfortable doing. Any little thing anybody does makes a difference, or anything somebody doesn’t do makes a difference, so we have the power. Each of us has the power. What I feel like I’m being called to do is bring this awareness among people, break through the fire wall that, “Little old me, I can’t do anything.” It’s kind of like the Wizard of Oz. The naïve little child Dorothy, she goes through a struggle throughout the movie. Then, at the end, she discovers that she had the power all along. We never lost our mojo. We always had it. We just didn’t know we had it. Now, there’s an awakening going on acknowledging that each of us can be our own savior, or we can be our own worst terrorist.

The first time I went to the park was on the last Friday of Spring Training in April 2012. My first impression of Occupy was that I felt an overwhelming feeling of pride seeing people standing up for themselves and coming together and networking and showing that we can do this. I followed the movement from day one, and they tried so many ways to break it up. They had the generators. They said it was a fire hazard, and they took the generators away. Then, they brought in this bicycle that generated electricity. It was very resilient and self-sufficient and self-sustaining. More than anything else, it showed that when people come together good things happen, so the system broke it down.

When I went to the last Spring Training before Mayday, I noticed that what the system also does is it works energetically to piss people off. I noticed that first hand when during Spring Training we broke up into three groups. I went with the group that went to the MTA building, and these cops in riot gear came out from behind these two buildings with wire handcuffs hanging from their pants. I saw what they were trying to do, and I just laughed. They were trying to change the energy of the group, and a few people fell for it. The guy right in front of me flipped the bird at them. I was like, “Hey, don’t do that. This is what the system wants. It wants you to be antagonized.” What it doesn’t want is it doesn’t want anybody being in unity and cooperation, not only with each other but with law enforcement. It’s creating an us versus them mentality.

The truth is, you take off the badge, you take off the uniform, what’s left is another being just like you, who’s doing his job, not because he wants to but because he needs an income, so he can go home and pay his bills to the banks. Everything is connected. A lot of us can’t see it because we are stuck in a state of stress, a state of survival. When we’re in a state of stress and survival, we have less of a capability to do high level thinking. To overcome that, we need to become more loving. A lot of the Occupy movement has overcome the fear of what might happen if I get out there and do something. That’s a fear that has been overcome by the Occupy movement, and that’s the fear that I think keeps a lot of people away from it because, “If I come out and do this, I might get arrested. I might get pepper sprayed, or I might get hit with a billy club." That’s a fear, and the opposite of fear is love.

The truth is, the simple equation to it all is to become love. That’s it. Be love. Our rational mind might put some hoops and flames to jump through. Part of what we need to do is to overcome that. Why do we have those thoughts? Was it something that we learned in school or something that we learned in religion, in our spiritual teachings? Is it something that we learned from watching the media or reading the newspapers? Why do we believe what we believe? Because everybody says it? Why does everybody say it? Because somebody else said it, and it was printed in all of the newspapers? It was on the media, so then it becomes the belief that it’s true? It’s not so much that it’s true. It’s more of a belief. If you believe it’s true, then for you it’s true. It’s forgetting everything that we’re not in order to remember everything that we are.

We’re more than just what the structure of the society told us that we are. We’re much more than that, every one of us. It’s each person’s job to discover that in themselves. It starts by starting to break down the constructs in the thought process of, “I have a position in this company. I work 9-5. I’m a father of three.” Or whatever it may be. Everybody has got their labels that society has put on them. What’s helped me a lot to break through that is that I’ve stopped putting those labels on people. I think what’s helped me the most is meditation, just in that silence and doing conscious breathing and letting go of things that are stressing me out. We’re all in this shit together, whether we want to acknowledge each other or not. It’s up to each person, but the truth is that we’re all in this shit together. If we don’t come together, if we don’t resolve our differences and put aside the labels that the society has put on us, then we are still hiding.

When I go to these protests and I see a cop, I don’t get angry. I look at him, and I have a feeling of sorrow because I know he’s doing his job because he’s got a family at home. He’s got a mortgage to pay. He doesn’t want to lose his home. He’s got to put his kids in school. He’s got to feed them. He doesn’t want to lose his paycheck. He’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. He knows it’s wrong, but he can’t lose his job. If he loses his job, he loses his ability to support his family. That’s what the system wants, everybody stressed. They also go through a training program where they are conditioned to follow orders. If they don’t follow the orders, they might lose their job. I look at them, and I say, “They’re part of us. They’ve just had another label put on them.” They’re all doing the same thing we’re doing, which is struggling to survive to pay our bills. I ask myself who benefits from this. I don’t know too many people that do. The more of us that can acknowledge that, the more of us will come together.

A lot of things are going to break down, and they’re breaking down already. It’s a glorious thing that’s happening. However, while we’re going through the breaking down of it, it may seem very chaotic. It’s kind of like before the caterpillar becomes the butterfly. He didn’t know he was going to become a butterfly. The caterpillar constantly consumes. Then, its starts to consume itself. The caterpillar is like, “Oh my god, what the fuck is going on?” Then, it becomes a butterfly. What we’re going through, what humanity, what our species is going through is I believe the same process. If we can keep that thought in our mind, that this is what’s happening, then we’ll be able to flow through it much smoother. It’s up to us to acknowledge that shit is breaking down. Shit that doesn’t work is breaking down, so we can give birth to something new that works for everybody. 

It’s so important because life depends on it, all life, not just human life - the planet, all species, plants, trees. Humanity has been callous taking care of the planet. We have the ability to be so much better to ourselves, first, and then to all life afterwards, but we’ve been stuck in this competition state of being. I like to call it 'the program.' I like to say that every human is like a biological conscious computer. The computer can only give out what’s been put into it. Each of us has to ask ourselves, “What has been put into us, and who put it into us?” We need to question all of it. It starts from childhood. First, your parents teach you what they know, not because it’s right or wrong, but because they believe that’s what’s best for you, because of the program that they grew up in. Then, we go to school. School teaches us, “You have to get an education, get a degree, get a job, make money, pay your bills.” We don’t question that. It’s a program. If we turn on the TV or read a newspaper, it tells us the same shit. That’s what has been going in to our biological conscious computer.

However, we are a conscious computer as well, so we have the choice to short circuit that program, do away with human 1.0 and upgrade to human 10.0. It’s up to each person to forget everything that they’ve been told to believe is reality and decide to become better than that. We all can do it. Everybody has the power within themselves to do it. I’d love to help people acknowledge that in themselves, and this is what I feel like I bring to the movement, not just the Occupy movement, to anybody - a police officer, even a CEO. He doesn’t see himself, what he’s doing. He may feel that, “Oh, I’ve accomplished this, and I’ve accomplished that,” but inside there is something missing. They feel it. They’re scared. They’re scared more than you could imagine because they don’t know what’s going to happen. They’re like that caterpillar consuming itself right now. It’s going to be hard times for a lot of people.

We can ease that pain and transition just by being able to acknowledge that we are the ones who can make the difference. We are making a difference and will be making a difference. It’s a process. There’s no finish line. It’s a journey. Everybody has their journey. It’s how we perceive our situation. It’s how we flow through it. Will we let the situation dictate us, or will we rise above it to dictate how the situation plays out? It could be something small. It could be something big. It could be anything. It’s a matter of taking a step outside of the box, or better yet getting rid of the box all together. Each of us has the ability to do it. What I’ve noticed with my own experience is the more I’ve detached myself from the constructs of society, the more I've been able to see it clearer. As we’re in there and competing and we’re doing all this shit, it’s hard to see it. You know it. I know it. I didn’t know it exactly, but I knew shit wasn’t right. A lot of people feel that, and the more we’re able to, each of us, detach as much as we can, the more clear it becomes that this shit ain’t working. It ain’t working.

We’re not only destroying our ecological systems, other animals, we’re destroying ourselves. We’re the most harmful species on this planet. Each of us needs to acknowledge in ourselves what it is that we’re doing. It’s like fixing the inner shadow. It’s kind of like going through hell to get to heaven, finding out what it is within ourselves that’s not working right and transforming that. First, it's having the thought that you can do it and then applying that in your actions. Then, that creates the feeling. I like to call it your energy feeling. They say everything is energy. Everyone is energy. Your energy radiates out to you by your feelings. If we’re feeling stress, that’s what we’re putting out there. If we’re feeling feelings of love, then that’s what we’re putting out there.  

I would love to see a world of peace, love, harmony, people looking out for each other, people looking out for themselves first by doing what they need to do first to create an inner harmony. Once the inner harmony is created, then they can apply that to the outer world and create that outer harmony. Each person that decides to do that adds to the greatest good. I can see the next 10 to 20 years being a huge transformational period for the whole planet, for people. I see borders being broken down. I can see honest banking, where laws are written to benefit everybody, where they’re not written behind closed doors. I see politicians starting to be conscious of the choices that they’re making, making choices from within themselves, what they feel is right, not by what some lobbyist is chirping in their ear every day. I see religious institutions breaking down. I see a birth of spirituality where it’s not a control issue but more self-empowering, where people are made aware of their inner being. I see a lot of the lies being brought out. I see a lot of people getting pissed off from it, and I also see the opportunity for people to rise above it. Some people rise above it quicker than others, but everybody has the ability to rise above it. I would just love everybody to know that within themselves they have all of the answers. The answers are not out there. It’s all in here.

Most people do what they do because they need to make money to pay the bills. That will slowly change into people doing what they do because they love to do it. They’re not doing it because if they don’t pay that Con Edison bill, they’ll get their electric cut off. People will have free energy. People will have unlimited access to health care. The world is not overpopulated or running out of food. It’s just very poorly managed by people who are trapped in their ego, who control everything. These same people who are trapped in their ego have the power within themselves to rise above it as well. They may be the last ones to rise above it. What I also believe is that they love us and they hate us because of that, because they can’t rise above it until we’ve forged a new way, which is what’s happening anyway.

There are a lot of networks and other groups rising up. There’s the One Billion Rising dance tomorrow in Washington Square Park. A lot of these things are happening, the Idle No More movement, end violence against women. I say let’s end violence against everybody. Yes, let’s end violence against women. What about the men? There’s violence against men too. Let’s end violence against everybody. I think that that slogan is flawed somewhat. I’m all for ending violence against women. Don’t get me wrong, but men and children too. Everybody has to be included. Let’s not just end violence against protesters or this group or that group. We need to include everybody. It also mean including the CEO and the fat cats too. We’ve got to include them too. As much as members of this movement might not want to, that’s what has to happen. The consciousness is slowly changing to acknowledge that.

I think a lot of us would like to see people in the highest power positions fall out of power, like with the pope announcing his resignation the other day. That might bring some gratification for a lot of people, and I have to admit that it does for me too, but at the same time, I kind of feel sorry for him because he has to face that inner shadow within himself. What life did he have growing up? Was he abused as a child? Did he go through some kind of a cult ritual where he was tortured to become as callous as he is? Everybody needs to be healed, even those who we view as being the worst of the worst. They had to have gone through some kind of traumatic, maybe continuous traumatic life events, to become that callous. That’s something that we will collectively get to.

I see it taking another ten to twenty years, but in those ten to twenty years, a lot of things are going to be happening because it can’t happen in a snap. If everything could happen like that, everybody would just have a heart attack. It’s going to happen where people can flow with it, even with the horrific uncovering of heinous crimes from people you would never imagine would do it. That’s coming down right now. We need to look beyond that to see what’s on the horizon, a better world for us, a better world for all life, all sentient life on this planet. How do you determine what’s sentient and not sentient? Whatever grows from the inside out is sentient, every person, plant, animal, tree, the earth. It’s all sentient life. What’s non-sentient? Corporations, governments, religions. They’re not sentient. They only exist because they were created from the mental construct of man. They don’t exist because they exist. It’s a construct. The banks don’t really exist. They only exist on paper. Yeah, the building is there. The logo is on the building. Yes, the people in the building are real people. The minerals that went to make the building is real. The neon sign is real, but the bank doesn’t exist. It’s just a construct. It’s just on paper. Somebody decided to scribble some lines on some paper. Someone else put a seal on it and called it an official law, and everybody bought it.

That’s what we were taught growing up. “This is how it is. This is how we do it.” That was a constant repetition into our biological computer, so we’ve got to break through that firewall. There’s a firewall, and we have to break through it, and each of us has the power to do it. There are steps that we can take. Each person can take steps becoming more conscious of their thoughts, becoming more conscious of why they think what they think, questioning that. It’s a matter of breaking down a lot of things that we grew up thinking to be real, to be truth. It’s going to be glorious. It’s going to be ugly and glorious, but I think if we can see beyond it, as we’re going through it, if we know what’s waiting for us on the other side of that threshold, it will give people the drive and the motivation to do that, to be that, and become it. We are becoming what we’re make to become. It’s happening now.

The sixties was like the seeds to what’s happening now. I see a lot of great things unfolding. We have a lot of great things to look forward to, and as we’re navigating through what’s happening right now, we need to just flow with it, allow it to fall away, acknowledge that it needs to fall away, so that we can introduce more of a community of people networking and doing what they want to do. The problem is that most of us don’t do what we want to do. We do what we believe we have to do to survive. That’s the difference between a third dimensional reality and a fifth dimensional reality. People are going to be doing what they love to do because they love to do it, and they’re doing it not just for themselves but for everybody. That’s the difference between one reality and the other. One is breaking down, and the other is building up. If we can acknowledge that, then we can flow with it more gracefully.

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