Friday, April 20, 2012

Fathema Nusrat Shad'idi

Occupy Wall Street 6 Month Anniversary, March 17, 2012, Wall Street
Photo: Stacy Lanyon

I do homeless outreach and social services, and I liked the idea that so many people would come to Liberty Square for so many different reasons. I liked it being used as a public platform to discuss the issues that were going on, and I liked that it was being used in a way that people felt comfortable and safe. It’s important not only on a local level but on a global level. It’s important that we all have a safe space where we can discuss the issues, where we feel that we can connect with each other not only culturally but cross-culturally and discuss what’s going on in our world and how we can bring this forward in a positive way that will be beneficial to everybody and not just one group.

It’s important to create the dialogue. It’s important to get people to understand there are other people out there trying to affect change. It’s important that the powers that be see that we’re unhappy with the way things are and that we’re not here to try to create any kind of chaos. We’re just trying to get what’s fair. There are so many issues. State side, there’s a ton of issues. We’ve got housing. We’ve got homelessness. We’ve got job issues. We’ve got health care, and these are the things that affect how people’s lives are going to be, so we need to start somewhere. Everybody has that sense, even if they can’t put their finger on it, they know something is wrong. They feel helpless. They don’t know how to direct that energy, and they don’t know where to go to affect change. I think the wonderful thing about Occupy is that we not only give a space, when we have it, we give a safe space, but we also bring back people’s hope. 

We have activists come here that haven’t been involved in activism or organizing for years, and all of the sudden they are re-energized. They’re like, “Oh my god!” The movement has given that platform back to people and has given them a space where they feel like they have a voice. We’re not going to be able to affect change tomorrow. We’re not going to be able to do that, but if we can at least start the dialogue and get people thinking and exchanging ideas with each other and wondering, “how can we do this? How can we bring this back to our homes? How can we bring this back to our communities? How can we affect small changes?” Even if it’s just a community garden to grow fresh vegetables, these are positive changes forward, but at the same time, because we come from that society, because we come from that system, there’s also changes that we need to make inside of ourselves, so it also creates a platform for us to work that out, so that we can, as they say, become the change we want to see in the world.

I think we all want a world where we just feel like we got a fair shake. I would love to see a world without war. I would love to see a world without poverty. I would love to see a world, again, where everyone gets a fair shake, where they can just live peacefully and co-exist peacefully without all the bullshit, without all the borders and the separations. I would love a world where everybody actually acknowledges each other as human beings as opposed to, “you're this, you're that.” That’s what I would love to see. When we come to our space, wherever we are occupying, you see that. You see an amazing cross section of humanity, and everybody is fine with each other, so if we can create that in a small space, we can definitely carry that over to a large area.

We can do amazing things with technology. We can build skyscrapers. We can do this. We can do that. We can send people to the moon, but we can’t take care of our neighbors. That’s why I think Occupy so resonates because it’s from the heart, and people recognize that. They may not be able to articulate it, but they are automatically drawn to it because it’s natural to do that. It’s natural to help each other out. It’s natural to feel concern about your fellow human beings. That doesn’t just mean here. That means anywhere on the planet. You’d have to be a stone not to do that, so that’s why, for me, that’s the most important thing, to create that dialogue, to create that safe space, and once you’re in it, the rest is natural.


Interview by Stacy Lanyon
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